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#1 trigger rules

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 08:59 AM

With one male and one female that have grown up together i have a problem. i have always fed the dogs together with no problem,(5 years) but the female was getting heavy so i reduced the amount of food at each feeding (2 times a day). Now the male will not let the female eat and i have to feed the female seperate and stand over her to keep the male dog from running her off. I have a automatic feeder for when i am gone and know she gets nothing sometimes for a day. she is losing weight but not the way i envisioned. how do i bring them back!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 01:11 PM

separate them when feeding time temporarily..
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 10:51 PM

jacko is right... just temporary... until your female lose her weight...

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 07:17 AM

I DISAGREE....... He needs to be punished for being food aggressive. Feed them both together and stay in the room. Any attempt he makes for her food gets a firm "NO" and "Eat your food". He gets 1 warning at first and when he ignores it, he gets kicked out of the room and she gets to eat first. When you feed one dog first, they begin to think that they are higher than the other and this throws off the pack hierarchy. Now in this instance he forfeits his meal if he cannot behave. Once she is done, he can come back in. I have a feeling that she initiated the whole thing b/c she was still hungry and you cut back her intake, so she started poking around in his bowl and now things are beginning to escalate. All meals need to be monitored right now. Using the automatic feeder is going to be detrimental to your training. Dogs can wait to eat until you get home. I would really stop with the auto feed if you can. It may even get to a point where you have to take away an entire meal from one of them b/c they won't eat their own food. This is the consequence, without it you have nothing. They aren't going to starve b/c they missed one or two meals. Dogs are much more resilient than we think they are. \ Sounds like its time for some tough love. And remember, the rule applies to both, if she's in his bowl, same consequence.

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 10:51 AM

Treating aggression with force can be dangerous. You run the risk of being bitten removing the dog. Management (separation) and work on resource guarding (Mine! by Jean Donaldson is a great book to work through) with positive methods is much safer.

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 08:23 AM

That is absolutely true...treating aggression with force often leads to making matters worse. At no time though was force suggested. A time out is a form of negative punishment (withholding something the dog wants) versus positive punishment which uses force such as corrections, hitting, etc. I know I threw out the word punishment and did leave it vague, but at no time did I mean to use force for punishment. Rather, withhold the food. Make him earn his right to eat. Once they can be in the same room together, eating side by side again, then we can reward them both by tossing something super yummy into the dish as they are eating. That would be positive reinforcement, but then we may just be opening the door up to aggression again. Calmly petting both is a great way to positively reinforce things without having to bring more food into the mix. The important thing is that the rules apply to both. If you want them to be equal, then you have to treat them as such. I apologize for the vagueness of the original response, but we are being inundated with spammers lately and by the time I get around to answering posts, I've already spent over an hour just doing Admin. stuff. I'm getting really tired of these trollers. JMM: Thank you for pointing all of this out as it is important to clarify these things. It is appreciated by all.

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 02:10 AM

When I separate them to different rooms, the passive dog (Hambone) will not eat and worries only about getting back with his brother (Porkchop). Currently, Porkchop is "thick" and Hambone is thin with ribs beginning to show.



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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:53 AM

When I separate them to different rooms, the passive dog (Hambone) will not eat and worries only about getting back with his brother (Porkchop). Currently, Porkchop is "thick" and Hambone is thin with ribs beginning to show.

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 07:44 AM

I won't pretend to have specific advice for your situation, but I'll describe how I feed my two dogs who do show a small amount of resource guarding. They get fed in the same room at the same time, but not right next to each other. In the beginning, I kept a spray bottle out and when the faster eater would finish and start to dart over to the slower eater, I would tell him no and if needed show him the spray bottle (I don't often have to actually spray a bottle, just show him). I would also keep treats and give him a treat when he didn't go to the other dog after finishing his own food. He learned quickly that he was not allowed to go take the slower eater's food. Both my dogs are pretty sensitive and submissive so this was all I needed to do, so after awhile of consistently doing that I now don't need to do anything. I stay in the room while they eat but they don't even try to approach eat other's bowls until they've walked away from them. Then they usually go lick each other's bowls clean lol but they're not possessive over their bowls so that doesn't bother them!






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