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#1 Jhonalid1

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 08:51 AM

I have a 13 or 14 year old German Shorthair Pointer. She was a rescue and was about 2 when I got her by estimation of the vets, which would make her now 14ish. She had an awfully rough life before me and it took me quite a while to gain her trust to make her the dog she is today. I think many of you know the whole story, but this is the shortened version. She was also diagnosed with Canine Disciod Lupus a few years back. It has localized in her nose making it dry and prone to cracking. She takes steroids during flare ups and we've gotten it down to just Vit B supplements to ward off the flare ups. She has also been taking Metacam as needed for arthritis in her back end. We have never figured out why, but she is very sensitive about her rear. She is the friendliest dog, but if another dog comes and sniffs a bit too vigorously, she will growl and sometimes cry/yelp. We have noticed recently that she seems to be struggling a bit more with the pain/instability in her back end. We went to an outdoor pet event over the weekend and when we got home, she had to be carried up the 4 stairs to the house. We didn't walk that much. :( I've scheduled her a vet check up as it is about time for her 1 yr check up anyways. I think part of the problem is the arthritis and part is muscle fatigue. My question is, what medications, besides the Metacam have any of you had experience with? Any other suggestions? She does take a glucosamine supplement as well. I've heard bad things about Rimadyl. I just wanted to hear some personal opinions and experiences. I'd like to have some information in my head when I go and talk to the vet. I realize she is getting up there and this is just one of those things I am going to have to start dealing with. I don't think she is at ~that~ point yet where I need to start thinking about other options, but I want to try and get some control over the arthritis pain. The Metacam was "as needed" but maybe a daily dose is called for now? Anyways....any help you can give will be appreciated. Thanks!

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 09:46 AM

No expert here but when our 13 year old basset had hip problems----- metacam on a daily basis helped a lot. Even if it might cause problems in the future we simply wanted her to be as comfy as possible for what life she had left. Sorry you are dealing with this issue. Hard to do I know.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 02:59 AM

A daily NSAID can be safe if you have regular bloodwork checked with your vet. You also need to know that you cannot give Metacam and steroids at the same time. If your dog needs to be on steroids, you CANNOT give metacam at the same time. Often you have to try a few different NSAIDs to find one that is most effective for your dog. I like Metacam or Zubrin as first choices. If those aren't effective enough I'd try Rimadyl and them Deramaxx as my last choices. Another great option for arthritis and back pain in dogs is acupuncture. It is totally harmless to your dog and worth a shot!

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 03:15 AM

Septic arthritis is due to an disease in the combined arthritis which is the follow up to one of many combined insults.You should seriously consider what kind of your dogs lifestyle has and if it is this bad. Euthanasia may be the kindest choice for seriously boring pets.
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:25 AM

Seriously boring pets???????
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:59 AM

My old dog had issues, I added glucosamine to her daily food, fish oil, added lots of vegies and fibre to help reduce her weight. Made large floor cushions for her, added steps to my bed ..cos she'd always slept at my feet. Got ramps to lots of places .. I lifted her on and off things so she didn't jar her poor old bones.. And as with Viv ..I hope the language issues are in translation ..my dog was quite happy with her life ..it worried ME more than her.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 12:09 PM

my old shepherd had anal fissures, very painful condition and also arthritis, she was 13 at the time. Vet put her on predazone for the fissures and tremadole for pain. She was on this for about a year, she still ate well and showed interest in what was going on around her, after a year or so she started loosing control of her bowels, I dealt with that, then one day she fell, there are four steps leading to my front door, she fell coming up the steps and broke her foot. I took her to the vet and he said she had been on the pred for so long she would not heal and with her issues surgery was not an option anyway as she may now wake up. So I had to make the decision to put her down. It was a very hard decision but I couldn't leave her in that condition so I did what I had to do. I had her since she was 7 weeks old and it was a hard thing to do but it was the only thing I could do for her. I still miss my old girl but I know she isn't suffering and is at rest.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:51 PM

Hi Have you heard of a product called runaround that is sold by a company in Swaffham, Norfolk. It is purely homopathic and is sold by a company called Doghealth in Norfolk 01760 726340. It contains shark cartilage, green lipped mussel extract. It is not a drug and contains Mucopolysaccharids, protein complexes, collagen, glyoaminoglycons, chondroitin sulphate necessary to protect joints from wear and tear and to prevent damage to connective tissues and bones. It also contains ester-c, a potentiated form viatamin c which is less iriitating ot the intestine and more absorbable, vitamin e which helps preserve muscle cell membrane stability. Runabround helps normalmuscle, skeletal and joint movement and maintenace by assisting the lubrication of joints and maintaining their suppleness. I have used this product on my dogs and have seen a massive improvement. I have also recommended it to friends and family and they to have seen great improvements. It is a powder and goes in your dogs food. The weight of the dog determines how much you use. it is not expensive and comes in two sizes so try the small size first and see how your dog responds. Hope this helps

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:22 PM

Try asking your vet about Adequan injections. Adequan is a form of glucosamine that is much faster-acting when injected than given orally. It can be used in conjunction with oral supplements.
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Posted 06 August 2013 - 10:02 AM

You said exactly what I was thinking.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 01:18 PM

I read somewhere, I can't remember where, but it says there that there's already a laser treatment for arthritis for pets.

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 06:27 PM

That is very interesting to hear Nikkita, if you could share the article it could light a shade for some dog owners. I bet if is true, its very expensive at the moment.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 05:41 AM

Not a supplement, but warm water swimming is really good for arthritis.

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Posted 19 December 2014 - 09:03 AM

Hi I'm not sure if anybody is viewing these post still, but I wanted to share my experience with you. I have an 8yr old golden retriever who has arthritis in his shoulder and for the last year has been walking with a limp. I have tried lots of different tablets recommended by my vets and so far none have been successful. In the winter months it gets worse and he seems to get worse especially after walks, but for the last 2weeks I've tried him on an aloe Vera gel which contains glucosamine and the results have been fantastic. Not only has his limp nearly completely gone but also his coat is so soft and shiny. I'm so happy with the results that I had to share x

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 06:17 AM

What has worked best for my 11+ year old German Shepherd's arthritis is pharmaceutical grade type one and type three collagen blend from Piping Rock. It has worked better than Adequan injections or other suupplements that I've used and it has no side effects that I've found. This collagen product helps arthritis, joints, bones, tendons, ligaments, hair, skin and nails.  Since my dog not only has arthritis but she also has back knee ligament problems as well, this has worked especially good for her.  Currently, she walks, uses the pet door and can even do the bunny hop run. Considering that a year and a half ago she couldn't even get up on her feet by herself, this is seemingly remarkable. 

 I've continued to give her the supplements I was already giving her, but I've been able to cut back on them some. I've not had to give her an injection  for arthritis for some time now and I expect that I'll be able to discontinue those altogether. This product is easy to use as it comes as a powder and I mix it with water, vitamin C and hyaluronic acid.  It took a few weeks of using this before I saw improvement and the improvement increased with time. 

I also decided to try this collagen blend for myself and I've seen a real improvment although I was already taking several joint supplements.  I just stumbled on this product and decided to try it never dreaming it would not only benefit my dog but me as well. 



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Posted 22 February 2015 - 10:36 AM

Here is some info for those who are using Adequan for dogs with arthritis.  A much less costly alternative that requires no prescription is ICHON.  According to an online vet, it contains the identical active ingredient as Adequan, polysulfated glycosaminoglycan.  It  comes in a 5 ml vial just like Adequan. The concentration is also the same, so the dose is calculated the same:  dog's weight times .02 equals dose in mls.  For example, the dosage for a 75 lb dog would be:  75 x .02 = 1.5 ml

ICHON does not contain a preservative so it will  need to be refrigerated.  Using it like Adequan is an off the label use, but if you research the internet for reviews, they are favorable. 

I found out about this when the vet put my German Shepherd on Adequan but due to manufacturing problems, it became temporarily unavailable for several months. We hadn't even finished the loading phase when this happened and since my dog had already shown imporvement, I didn't want to stop giving it. So, I searched the internet and found ICHON from Allivet with no prescription needed.  I read many online reviews and didn't find any problems with using this, so I tried it.  I liked it so much that I stayed with it even after Adequan became available again. 

Since then, I've found something that may be even better - Type one/Type three collagen blend, pharmaceutical grade which I get from Piping Rock.  It's given by mouth and there are no known side effects.  I can give it every day and not worry about what kidney or liver damage that may occur as a side effect. Also, the monthly injectable drug's effectiveness would diminish before I gave another one the next month. I didn't want to give it more often than that due to concerns of possible negative side effects.  I've also had to repeat the loading phase a couple of times.  I expect that this injectable drug would work well with the collagen. I've used them together but I believe that I will soon be able to discontinue the ICHON/Adequan altogether. I've only given one injection in the last five months and that was mainly to use up the supply that I already have.  My 11+ year old German Shepherd, Gretta, has been treated for severe arthritis since she was nine years old and at one time, she couldn't get up or walk without assistance. My girl has been walking on her own and using her pet door again for quite some time now.  Also, since this collagen is very pure and made for people, you can take it too. I've tried it and after taking it for seveval weeks, I can tell that it's definitely made an improvement in my joints.  

 



#17 Charlie

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Posted Today, 12:07 AM

For my dog with arthritis I used a product called Flexpet (USA online order ships worldwide) with great results.

Check it out for your own peace of mind.

 

It's a natural product so should be okay with her other medications - my vet had no problem with it (but check with yours) and don't let the vet try and sell you one of the products on the shelf at the clinic - my vet knows that I research stuff pretty well and only need confirmation not a sales pitch!

Is there a weight issue? if so that would not be helping.

 

If she is happy and not in pain but gets tired and has wobbling or unsteadiness at the rear Google - Walkin Wheels - it's adjustable wheels for all shapes and sizes of dogs and is affordable.






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